The above video is a good representation of the war crimes committed by Kansas Jayhawkers in Osceola, Missouri in September, 1861. The City Council of Osceola, Missouri recently decided to make a bold and unusual stand by passing a resolution that asked the university of Kansas to drop its “Jayhawk” mascot because it represents the act of domestic terrorism committed by Senator Jim Lane’s “Jayhawks”. The resolution is unusual in a sense that it is not often that a City Council takes a stand for TRUTH.
Please notify the City of Osceola and Thank them for their courage and for helping to educate the public on the true history of Missouri.
You can send correspondence by email at: email@example.com
Or you can call the Mayor of Osceola personal and ask them to stand firm in their decision by dialing: 417-646-8421
It is imperative that we support the City of Osceola in their decision- Editor
The Colonel John T. Coffee Camp #1934, Sons of Confederate Veterans played host to over 230 attendees on April 30th of this year at its eleventh annual heritage dinner, setting a new record for the event.
This year’s guest speaker was retired USMC Master Sergent Paul R Petersen, award winning author of “Quantrill of Missouri”, “Quantrill in Texas” and the newly released “Quantrill at Lawrence”.
Petersen covered a wide variety of topics in his lecture. He is what many consider an expert on Missouri Partisan Ranger, William Quantrill and revealed many previously known facts about the Missouri guerrilla fighter, his tactics and how they affect modern day warfare. A veteran of the Vietnam War, Operation Desert Storm and Operation Iraqi freedom, Petersen emphasized that Quantrill was a legitimate military leader. So much so that his methods of warfare are taught to our military today.
Mr. Petersen emphasized that he has researched over 150 newspapers of the Civil War era relating to Quantrill and that they reveal many facts that previous historians have ignored in their writings, Petersen goes so far as to make the argument that many of the facts of Quantrill’s raid on Lawrence, Ks were deliberately misrepresented. One of those facts is the popular belief that Quantrill burned over 300 buildings on his raid to Lawrence, Petersen noted that City of Lawrence, Ks own visitor’s bureau lists a total of only 85 buildings destroyed during the raid.
“Lawrence , Kansas was a legitimate military target that housed over 1000 Union troops at any given time”, Petersen said.
Also attending the event was a reporter from the Kansas City Star who asked “was the Civil War about slavery or states rights?” at which time Mr. Petersen answered her question by saying, “In many of the pictures of the Union Army , the officers were in the front row, followed by the white enlisted me and behind them, the black enlisted men. Quantrill had a black scout by the name of John Noland, the men in Quantrill’s command referred to Noland as a man among men and after the war when he died, he had all white pallbearers at his funeral”.
During his speech Petersen also made note that war is an ugly business and that we need to support the men currently fighting for our country, at which time he received a standing ovation.
Mr. Petersens books are published by Pelican and can be found at all major bookstores and on the web.
“FRAMINGHAM, Mass. — The gravesite of a Union Army major general sits largely forgotten in a small cemetery along the Massachusetts Turnpike.
A piece of the coat worn by President Abraham Lincoln when he was assassinated rests quietly in a library attic in a Boston suburb. It’s shown upon request, a rare occurrence.
A monument honoring one of the first official Civil War black units stands in a busy intersection in front of the Massachusetts Statehouse, barely gaining notice from the hustle of tourists and workers who pass by each day.
As the nation marks the 150th anniversary of the Civil War, states in the old South — the side that lost — are hosting elaborate re-enactments, intricate memorials, even formal galas highlighting the war’s persistent legacy in the region. But for many states in the North — the side that won — only scant, smaller events are planned in an area of the nation that helped sparked the conflict but now, historians say, struggles to acknowledge it.
“It’s almost like it never happened,” said Annie Murphy, executive director of the Framingham History Center in Framingham, Mass. “But all you have to do is look around and see evidence that it did. It’s just that people aren’t looking here”
There are many interesting observations in this article. While the South is ridiculed as a whole with such stereo-types as being, poor, backward, stupid, etc. The North is portrayed as being progressive, morally superior and intelligent.
The South is not “stupid” or “backward” but it has something the federal government could never take away during its invasion, occupation and reconstruction of the Southern states and that is its fondness for tradition, heritage and culture. As the article states there are many reasons for the North’s complacency in regards to its heritage:
To be sure, some Northern states have Civil War events planned and have formed commemoration commissions. Connecticut’s 150th Civil War Commemoration was set up in 2008 and has scheduled a number of events and exhibits until 2015. Vermont, the first state to outlaw slavery, started a similar commission last year to coordinate activities statewide and in towns.
And some Massachusetts small not-for-profit and historic groups are trying to spark interest through research, planned tours and town events.
But observers say those events pale in comparison to those in the South.
That difference highlights Northern states’ long struggle with how to remember a war that was largely fought on Southern soil, said Steven Mintz, a Columbia University history professor and author of “Moralists and Modernizers: America’s Pre-Civil War Reformers.” For Northern states like Massachusetts, Mintz said revisiting the Civil War also means revisiting their own unsolved, uncomfortable issues like racial inequality after slavery. ”
To acknowledge the North’s issues with “racial inequality” before, during and after the Civil War, would be to knock down the pillars of the facade that the North went to war for racial equality. Acknowledgement of the North’s issues with “racial inequality” would lead to the acknowledgement that the Federal Government invaded the South to protect its flow of tax revenue from the South via import tariffs.
Most wars are fought for money, political power , protectionism and control of natural resources, this war was no different-webmaster
Kevin Levin is at it again… this time he has turned his wrath toward the Kennedy Brothers (authors of the best selling book “The South was Right!” Their crime? Apparently being interviewed by Al Jazeera.
“his is an interesting little report on the commemorative events surrounding the sesquicentennial of Fort Sumter. A number of people are interviewed, but what I find so interesting is the difference in tone between NPS interpreter, Michael Allen and the Kennedy brothers (aka the Civil War’s Statler and Waldorf), who identify themselves as “Southern Historians.” I just love that reference. It has nothing to do with regional identification because if it did they would have to include hundreds of historians who were all born and raised in the South. I live in the South. Am I a Southern Historian in their eyes? You get my point. No, that identification marks a certain way of looking at the history of the South and its tone is overly defensive and presentist – a perspective that I suspect does not reflect the views of most white and black southerners. The language used reflects very little interest in the nineteenth century itself. Just listen to these two describe the federal government as tariff and money obsessed and intent on going around the world to oppress innocent people at the point of a bloody bayonet.
You certainly leave with a sense of their emotional connection to the issue, but it’s not much of an explanation.
The bigger problem here is that the media’s insistence on interviewing people like the Kennedy brothers reinforces the assumption that this is the Southern view of the war. They may be entertaining and they may refer to themselves as Southern historians, but they do not speak for the South.”
The Kennedy brothers don’t speak for the South, but Leven thinks HE does? Hardly.
He was recently interviewed by Patricia Gay, who is a reporter with the Weston Forum a Connecticut newspaper about the Virginia textbook controversy in regards to its mentioning of Black Confederate soldiers.
In it Levin calls the mention of Black Confederates in the textbooks, “mindboggling” and “disappointing.”
I think there is the distinct possibility that what Levin finds truly mindboggling and dissappointing is that while he is garnering attention in a small northeastern U.S. newspaper for trying to discredit the textbook company and the Sons of Confederate Veterans, the Kennedy Brothers are garnering world-wide attention by speaking about the real reasons for the War of Northern Aggression and how they can be compared and applied to current events.-Webmaster
Walker, an Independence druggist many years, was a 4-year-old when Quantrill came to the Morgan Walker farm near Blue Springs one December day in 1860.
Mrs. William H. Childers of Lee’s Summit, the former Henrietta Walker who grew up in Independence, said her father often remarked that as a child he “ate dinner at the same table with Quantrill” at his grandfather’s farm.
Donald Hale’s mention of the Quantrill role in a raid planned on the Morgan Walker farm reminded Mrs. Childers of her father’s stories. Hale gave the talk Jan. 6 in one of the series of illustrated lectures held at the Independence square courthouse under sponsorship of the archives committee of the Jackson County Historical Society.
“The old farm was north of Blue Springs on what is now Highway No. 7,” Mrs. Childers said. “Great-grandfather, who was a blacksmith as well as a farmer, had largelandholdings and many slaves.”
Hale said Quantrill was opposed to slavery when he came to Kansas as a young teacher, but speculation has it that he became a rebel when he saw bloody acts of violence against Missouri slaveholders by the abolitionists from across the border in Kansas.
He rode into Jackson County with a band of young Quaker abolitionists from Lawrence to steal slaves at the Walker farm. Scouting ahead, Quantrill ended up by telling Walker’s son, Andrew, of the impending raid.
“The story goes,” Mrs. Childers said, “that Uncle Andrew, then 24, took Quantrill to see his father, Morgan Walker, who was my great-grandfather.
“Quantrill was invited to eat dinner with the family while they talked. Morgan Walker asked Quantrill to remove his gun because no one sat at his table wearing a fun. My father, a small boy visiting at his grandfather’s, remembered how Quantrill took off his gun and laid it by the door.
“My father said he didn’t recall having any fear of the famous guerrilla–that he appeared to be a kindly and refined man.
“Quantrill told them of the raid that was to take place that night. Father recalled that they gathered all of the neighbors together to ambush the raiders. He said they probably would have killed them all but that my great-grandmother, Polly Cox Walker, thinking to help the men ambush the raiders by placing a lamp in the window, blinded them instead.”
Thomas J. Walker, the son of John Riley Walker, Morgan’s son, was born in 1856 on a nearby farm. He recalls that the family had to leave Jackson County in 1863 when Order No. 11 forced the eviction of all Southern sympathizers.
“Father often told how his family, with alll the possessions they could pack into a wagon , crossed the Missouri River and went to Nebraska City, Neb., where they lived until the war ended in 1865. Father got his first schooling there.
“When the family returned home they found their homes destroyed. Only one slave cabin was standing on the Morgan Walker farm, all else had been burned and all of the family possessions had been taken.”
Mrs. Childers said that during earlier raids by the Kansas “Red Legs” her great-grandmother had told how she counted homes of five of their neighbors burning at the same time.
“Great-grandmother Walker was a true rebel,” Mrs. Childers said. “I have heard the story how she stood on a fence and waved a Confederate flag as the Union troops filed by. They all expected her to be shot, but she was never harmed.”
Mrs. Childers said her father often told of how he was “arrested” once while riding with uncle and aunt, Ed and Betty Gaddy, when some Union Soldiers marching out of Independence accosted them.
“Uncle Ed Gaddy slipped off the horse and hid in the bushes, knowing that the woman and child would not be harmed. Aunt Betty and father were taken to Liberty. Father said he slept on the floor with the soldiers and that his aunt had sent a Negro boy to tell his mother where he was. They were released the next day, unharmed.”
Thomas Walker opened a drugstore in Blue Springs in the 1880’s. In 1890 he opened a store in Independence on the southeast corner of the square. He sold the store to Mize Peters in 1912.
End of p. 8.
Mrs. Childers, like her father, became a pharmacist. Her late husband, William H. Childers, also was a pharmacist and they worked together many years.
Morgan Walker and his wife, and a number of other relatives, as well as their slaves are buried in the old family cemetery on the old Morgan Walker farm, now owned by Rodney Choplin.”
Article printed in the Historical Society Journal of Jackson County (Missouri), March 1974, Vol XVI, No. 1, pp. 8 and 9.
Want to know more about “Quantrill of Missouri”? Then don’t miss the Col. John T. Coffee Camp’s 11th annual Heritage Dinner, featuring Paul R. Petersen , award winning author of “Quantrill of Missouri” , “Quantrill in Texas” and the upcoming book “Quantrill in Kansas” The dinner is free but you must RSVP before April 26, 2011. For information about this event and how to RSVP click on the following link:
Saturday, March 5, 2011
A highly decorated retired master sergeant with the United States Marine Corps, Petersen is an infantry combat veteran of Vietnam, Desert Storm and Iraqi Freedom. His combat experience brings insight into the character of William Clarke Quantrill, the man who was responsible for developing modern guerrilla warfare.
As author of three books, “Quantrill of Missouri,” “Quantrill in Texas” and “Quantrill at Lawrence,” Petersen’s insights bring complex patterns of events into clear focus, identifies the personalities involved along the border and quotes memorably from firsthand accounts giving a clear understanding of the temper of the times.
“Quantrill at Lawrence” is the only account explaining the causes, reasoning and justification for the 1863 Lawrence raid. It is the first time a complete story has been written using accounts by both the victims and the raiders. Researched facts that earlier historians have intentionally omitted have been included.
“Quantrill of Missouri” received the distinguished Perry Award for Best Book in 2004 and “Quantrill in Texas” received the 2009 Milton F. Perry Best Non-Fiction Award.
The event (which includes dinner) is free and open to the public. Fellowship will be from 5 to 6 p.m., and the meal will be served at 6 o’clock with Petersen speaking at 7. All interested parties must RSVP no later than April 26.
For more information contact Gary Ayres at (417) 754-8397 or by e-mail at firstname.lastname@example.org or by mail to Gary Ayres, 3615 S. 70th Rd., Humansville, MO 65674.
Colonel John T. Coffee Camp #1934
Missouri Sons of Confederate Veterans
For Immediate Release
Contact: Clint E. Lacy
ELEVENTH ANNUAL CONFEDERATE HERITAGE DINNER
Featuring Guest Speaker Paul R. Pertersen
The Colonel John T. Coffee Camp #1934 will be holding its eleventh annual Confederate Heritage Dinner on April 30, 2011. We are pleased to announce that this year’s guest speaker will be Master Sgt. Paul R. Petersen. Paul R. Petersen is an award-winning author and educator who lectures on the Missouri-Kansas Border War. He is a member of the William Clarke Quantrill Society, the National James-Younger Gang Association, and the Sons of the American Revolution. A highly decorated retired master sergeant with the United States Marine Corps, Petersen is an infantry combat veteran of Vietnam, Desert Storm and Iraqi Freedom. His combat experience brings insight into the character of William Clarke Quantrill, the man who was responsible for developing modern guerrilla warfare. Author of three books, Quantrill of Missouri, Quantrill in Texas and Quantrill at Lawrence, Petersen’s insights brings complex patterns of events into clear focus, identifies the personalities involved along the border and quotes memorably from firsthand accounts giving a clear understanding of the temper of the times. Quantrill at Lawrence is the only account explaining the causes, reasoning and justification for the 1863 Lawrence raid. It is the first time a complete story has been written using accounts by both the victims and the raiders. Researched facts that earlier historians have intentionally omitted have been included. Quantrill of Missouri received the distinguished Perry Award for Best Book in 2004 and Quantrill in Texas received the 2009 Milton F. Perry Best Non-Fiction Award.
The event (which includes dinner) is free to the public . Fellowship will be from 5:00-6:00pm , meal will be served at 6:00 with Mr. Petersen speaking at 7:00 pm. All interested parties must RSVP (no later than April 26).
For more information contact Gary Ayres at: 417-754-8397 , by email at: email@example.com or by mail at:
Gary Ayres, 3615 S. 70th Rd., Humansville, MO 65674.
The only person that is receiving more media coverage than General Nathan Bedford Forrest lately is Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour. The Mississippi Division of the Sons of Confederate Veterans, wants to honor General Forrest with a commemorative licence plate, and this has the liberals seething. The only thing that makes them madder is the fact that they have not been able to bully Governor Barbour into denouncing the attempt.
The Huffington Post was quick to get in on the action writing:
“The Sons of Confederate Veterans has launched a campaign to issue one of the specialty license plates honoring Confederate Lt. Gen. Nathan Bedford Forrest, who was once the Grand Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan. The NAACP and a Facebook group are protesting the plate, which at the earliest would be unveiled in 2014.
This little drama comes at a perilous time for Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour, who was in Washington this past week attending the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) and positioning himself for a possible 2012 run.”
The Root also weighed in on the action. Though not as left leaning as the Huffington Post, David Swerdlick states that government should not be involving itself in the Civil War business stating:
“It’s hard to imagine that someone who was practically announcing his 2012 White House bid on Fox News Sunday last weekend wouldn’t take the easy out on a hot-button issue when it’s sitting right there for him, but so far, Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour won’t do it.
In the latest race-relations dustup over Barbour’s unwillingness to “denounce” the Sons of Confederate Veterans for its proposal to honor Confederate Gen. Nathan Bedford Forrest with a commemorative state license tag, Barbour is passing up a prime opportunity to flex his small-government chops.
He should just blame it all on big government. States approve commemorative license tags all the time. It puts a little extra money in the transportation budget, and it gives the supporters of the University of (Your State Here), the Conservation Society of (Your State Here) or the brothers and sisters of (Sorority) Phi (Fraternity) a chance to show their civic pride.
But it’s a little different when the state legislature is asked to green-light a tag in Forrest’s honor. After all, he was Ku Klux Klan leader and general in the Army of the Confederate States of America — the breakaway nation that warred against the United States of America — the republic to which Mississippi happens to currently belong.
If Barbour really wanted to dispense with the license tag issue, quiet his critics and avoid alienating his political base — one that bristles at anything they think smacks of “political correctness” — he should just say that government shouldn’t be involved in Civil War nostalgia.
There’s no doubt many Confederate enthusiasts see it differently. And they have every right, under the First Amendment of the Constitution (of the United States of America) to celebrate Forrest’s life and career — even if that career includes what historians describe as the massacre of black Union soldiers at the 1864 Battle of Fort Pillow, Tenn.
“Swerdlick goes on to write that:
“It is, as they say, a free country (you know, now). They’re free to honor Forrest, reenact Civil War battles and fly Confederate Battle Flags in their homes, on their cars, at their churches or on mugs and T-shirts made in China.
But once they’re asking the state government to put Forrest’s mug on a license tag, or raise the “Stars and Bars” on public grounds, they’re pretty much asking taxpayers to recognize a rogue state whose secession resulted in a war that cost over 600,000 lives on both sides. And that’s really not OK.”
Here is the reality of General Forrest… he was one of the best (if not the best) cavalry commander of the Confederacy. In the aftermath of Ft. Pillow, General Forrest was completely exonerated of any wrong doing. According to the Free Information Society website:
“The aftermath of the Battle of Fort Pillow in April, 1864, is still heatedly debated today. An inquiry by General Sherman soon after the “massacre”, and a congressional investigation by the US Congress after the war, exonerated Forrest from any personal wrongdoing there. The gist of the controversy stems from accusations that Forrest’s men allowed no African-American soldier in Union uniform to surrender, but shot them instead. Although these were the first US Colored Troops that any soldier in the western theater had seen, Forrest had both slaves and freedmen fighting in his ranks, it could have come as no shock to see black men in uniform.”
In addition the Free Information Society website states:
“In August, 1866, a troop of Federal cavalry was riding by Forrest’s place, as much out of curiosity to see him as for any more definite reason. Forrest’s war-horse, King Phillip, was grazing in the front lot. As the blue-clad cavalry filed into the lot on the way up to the house, King Phillip’s training in many a melee reasserted itself, and he rushed the bluecoats, teeth bared and front feet flailing. When some of the soldiers, astonished at his onslaught, struck at him, Forrest’s wartime body servant Jerry- whom the other Negro’s in the Forrest command had referred to, and obeyed, as “the Gin’ral”- rushed out to defend the horse. After Forrest himself had come out and the horse was back in the stable and things had quieted down, the Federal captain observed, “General, now I can account for your success. Your negroes fight for you, and your horses fight for you.”
F.I.S. also notes Forrest’s Klan involvement…
“”Reconstruction”, the 17 year period after the war when the south was under martial law, and the people basically lost their rights as Americans, was a terrible time for the citizens of the former Confederate States of America. It was intended by the US Congress as punishment for secession. The south was controlled by military leaders, who may have been excellent commanders in battle, but were pretty much universally horrible as governors. A “carpetbagger” government was put in place…men that were generally scoundrels and often criminals, served as “rulers” of the states and communities. They appointed former Union sympathizers and former slaves in positions of authority, to infuriate and humiliate the people. This was pretty much a lawless time throughout much of the south, not unlike that in the western territories. Forrest described that government as “I believe that party to be composed, as I know it is in Tennessee, of the worst men on Gods earth – men who would not hesitate at no crime [sic], and who have only one object in view – to enrich themselves.”
The Ku Klux Klan is a secret organization that has always been shrouded in mystery. Even its very beginnings are sketchy. It is known that 6 former Confederate officers at Pulaski Tennessee, approached Forrest with the idea of a “police force”, for the blessings of Forrest, who held the respect of the people. Forrest gave his blessings, and for it, he was appointed their first leader. The controversy stems in whether Forrest actually played an active part in the organization.
The KKK quickly spread throughout the south. Secrecy was, of course, an important part of this organization, because it was considered illegal by the “carpetbagger” government. Forrest, in an interview with the Cincinnati Commercial stated:
“Yes, sir. It is a protective political military organization. I am willing to show any man the constitution of the society. The members are sworn to recognize the government of the United States. It does not say anything at all about the government of Tennessee. Its objects originally were protection against Loyal Leagues and the Grand Army of the Republic; but after it became general it was found that political matters and interests could best be promoted within it, and it was then made a political organization, giving its support, of course, to the democratic party….”
“…Since its organization, the leagues have quit killing and murdering our people. There were some foolish young men who put masks on their faces and rode over the country, frightening negroes, but orders have been issued to stop that, and it has ceased. You may say, further, that three members of the Ku-Klux have been court-martialed and shot for violations of the orders not to disturb or molest people.”
When asked if he was actually a member of the KKK, Forrest stated “I am not, but am in sympathy and will co-operate with them. I know that they are charged with many crimes that they are not guilty of.”
By 1869, for several reasons, including fear of retaliation on the Tennessee people from the militia, who had been given the order from Governor Brownlow to “shoot down the KuKlux on site”, it being well known that Brownlow called all southerners “KuKlux”, Forrest asked the KKK to disband, stating “being perverted from its original honorable and patriotic purposes, becoming injurious instead of subservient to the public peace.”
Though the KKK is now known as a hate group, and is known primarily at that time for lynchings and terrorizing former slaves, the Klan did serve a useful purpose. They helped take care of poor Confederate widows; they took care of criminals and fought crime, and they basically restored order to the South, where there was none.”
General Nathan Bedford Forrest was no hatemonger, or terrorist. Nor was he responsible for a massacre. In fact on July 5, 1875 he became the first man to address the Pole-Bearer Memphis Appeal Association, which was a black , civil rights group. According to the Sons of Confederate Veterans Camp #2022 website:
“On July 5, 1875, Forrest became the first white man to speak to the Independent Order of Pole-Bearers Association, a civil rights group whose members were freedmen. In his short speech, he stated blacks had the right to vote for any candidates they wanted and that the role of blacks should be elevated. He ended the speech by kissing the cheek of one of the daughters of one of the Pole-Bearer Memphis Appeal members, evinces Forrest’s racial open-mindedness that seemed to have been growing in him. As reported in the contemporary pages of the Memphis Appeal.
“Ladies and Gentlemen I accept the flowers as a memento of reconciliation between the white and colored races of the southern states. I accept it more particularly as it comes from a colored lady, for if there is any one on God’s earth who loves the ladies I believe it is myself. ( Immense applause and laughter.) I came here with the jeers of some white people, who think that I am doing wrong. I believe I can exert some influence, and do much to assist the people in strengthening fraternal relations, and shall do all in my power to elevate every man to depress none. (Applause.) I want to elevate you to take positions in law offices, in stores, on farms, and wherever you are capable of going. I have not said anything about politics today. I don’t propose to say anything about politics. You have a right to elect whom you please; vote for the man you think best, and I think, when that is done, you and I are freemen. Do as you consider right and honest in electing men for office. I did not come here to make you a long speech, although invited to do so by you. I am not much of a speaker, and my business prevented me from preparing myself. I came to meet you as friends, and welcome you to the white people. I want you to come nearer to us. When I can serve you I will do so. We have but one flag, one country; let us stand together. We may differ in color, but not in sentiment. Many things have been said about me which are wrong, and which white and black persons here, who stood by me through the war, can contradict. Go to work, be industrious, live honestly and act truly, and when you are oppressed I’ll come to your relief. I thank you, ladies and gentlemen, for this opportunity you have afforded me to be with you, and to assure you that I am with you in heart and in hand. (Prolonged applause.)”
Whereupon N. B. Forrest again thanked Miss Lewis for the bouquet and then gave her a kiss on the cheek. Such a kiss was unheard of in the society of those days, in 1875, but it showed a token of respect and friendship between the general and the black community and did much to promote harmony among the citizens of Memphis”
Governor Barbour does not condemn the Sons of Confederate Veterans, nor does he denounce General Forrest, because he has no need to do so and if government has no reason to be in the “Civil War business” , then it certainly has no business celebrating Abraham Lincoln ( the man who is REALLY responsible for over 650,000 American deaths) with our tax dollars.- Webmaster
I knew that SCV member Dr. Hiter did a very good job last night debating Chris Mathews and Mr. Robinson, however; his steadfast adherance to facts and wisdom not to take the race bait from Mathews or Robinson seems to have frustrated the Lincoln-loving left.
A perfect example is Kevin Levin’s Civil War Memory blog in which he proclaims that the whole interview was pathetic and was clearly upset that neither Mathews or Robinson were able to guilt, rattle or achieve a clear debate victory over Dr. Hiter.-webmaster